Goatriders of the Apocalypse

Friday Odds and Ends, Pitching Is King Edition

Sean Gallagher goes to the pen, Sean Marshall stays in the rotation. (Meanwhile, Jason Marquis stays in the rotation. Isn’t life grand?) Piniella says that Marmol is starting to be a “little bit of a concern.” Out in Cub fandom the words “full blown panic” might be more descriptive.

As the All Star Break nears, trade rumors mount. Chris DeLuca runs them down. Short version: the Cubs could pursue Sabathia or Harden if they had better prospects, or Randy Wolf if they didn’t learn a lesson from the Steve Trachsel deal last season. DeLuca adds:

Another Padre who definitely might interest Hendry is former Cub Greg Maddux.

Definitely might.

Meanwhile, the Toronto papers are split on whether or not Burnett is or isn’t being shopped for a shortstop. The team’s president denies actively shopping Burnett, but says the Jays could deal him to “affects the long range betterment of the club.” Spoken like a Canadian.

The Brewers, on the other hand, are in the thick of the bidding for Sabathia. Rosenthal says that the Cubs and Phillies can’t match the Brewers’ farm system.

Trading Bedard is not priority number one for the Mariners, but they’re not ruling it out. Stark also makes a valuable point:

There's no commodity teams chase harder at the deadline than starting pitching. And it's mind-boggling how rarely it gets them anywhere. … So remember, friends, there's no assurance that trading for a C.C. Sabathia is going to give your team any better chance of winning the World Series than trading for, say, Tim Redding. And that's a fact.

The reason, said [Rockies GM Dan] O'Dowd, is simply that those starting pitchers only get to play every five days. So "just look at the number of starts a starting pitcher is going to get by the end of September," he said. "It's probably 10. So if the guy doesn't dominate in eight of those 10 starts, it's a disappointing trade."

Too true.

Not true

The value of a Sabathia to a Redding is what he can do in a short series in which he might start 2 games. While there's no guarantee that CC wouldn't tank, he seems far likelier to pitch well than a Redding or whomever.

It's not the 10 starts during the season that counts - it's the 5 starts in the playoffs.

You've got to make it to the playoffs first.

I'm sure the Brewers are looking into Sabathia not for what he can do in the postseason, but to improve their odds of being in the playoffs at all.


I dont see it as an extremely smart move to give up a bunch of young prospects for a guy that will maybe help you just MAKE the playoffs when you probably wont have the chance to keep him after this year. CC with his expiring contract would only interest me if he was what I thought could put the cherry on top for a World Series run. And Im sorry, hes not that for the Brewers...

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