Goatriders of the Apocalypse

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

From the Sun-Times: Cubs' man looks like Lou.

Be prepared for a return of Larry.

The one thing stopping this from being official:

Serious negotiations between the Cubs and Piniella have not yet taken place, though they could begin Monday, when Piniella has a break from his broadcast duties at the American League Championship Series. One sticking point could be the length of the contract. Piniella, who would have earned $4.5 million this season had he stayed with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, will command top dollar. With the team's future uncertain -- Hendry has two years left on his own contract -- a long-term deal along the lines of the four-year contract Dusty Baker landed appears unlikely.

Please, let's just hope that Lou wants more money than Jim is willing to offer. Otherwise, it's shitsville for the Cubs. Argh.

kurt

One last question, Greg. When Lou's tenure in Chicago ends in a bad way, will you be big enough to admit you were wrong?

Jason R.

Damn.

a) hopefully the press is jumping the gun and

b) I hope we're the ones eating our words when Piniella's tenure comes to a close.

kurt

I also would hope to be wrong if Piniella is the Cubs skipper. But, I sincerely doubt that will be.

GoatRoper

At least "Lou-P" (get it?) won't play kissy butt with the players. I always felt Baker walked on egg shells around his guys when he should have been kicking some butt. Just trying to look on the bright side of things here............oh hell, were doomed.

Steve

All the "Lou-fear" is ridiculous. If Hendry goes out and improves this team Lou will be just fine.

I guess I don't have to watch next year if he's hired. All doom and gloom...

Arghhh back at you

shan

i sense myself in an early grave thanks to this news. bleh.

Pierce

Call me crazy (YOUR CRAZY!) but I think that Piniella coming to Chicago is a very good thing for the Cubs. A big name manager might just get us a big name free agent.

Lou wants to win now, which might just help change the outlook of the entire franchise.

greg

Kurt, im confused, i thought just yesterday i read that you dont know who should be the manager? And now you seem to abhor the idea of Lou. I guess im confused. My personal opinion is thats great. I think any new manager is an improvement but we really wont know what he is going to be like until spring training. All of these reports about their history is great but it doesnt mean much, because managers have to adopt to their style of team. Lou managed in Tampa Bay and i doubt that he did and said the same things he said in Seattle. Lou has passion that baker lacked. That is a good start. I have no problem with him. Girardi i think, we are all so high on because A. hes a chicago guy and B. he had the marlins respectable. But i think the problem is, we arent giving enough credit to those young players. do you know how many talented players are in hte minors that never get a shot becuase of this reason or that. A TON and these guys got a shot and showed they can play. They also had more an incentive to win, they wanted to show people up. But i have no problems with Pinella. I think i might like him. Pierce, just one question, wasnt Baker a big name manager when he signed? I think he was and look where that got us.

Liz

Noooooooooooo is right. What happened to Girardi? Doesn't Pinella have a lot of the same tendencies as Dusty - the same ones we all hated? I heard him calling one of the playoff games last week and all I could think was "please no anyone but him". Besides I thought Lou wanted a championship ready team - that sure isn't the 07 Cubs.

kurt

Greg, you are a selective reader.

"That said, I'm currently clueless about who should be the next Cubs skipper. I just know who it shouldn't be - I'm looking at you, Lou Piniella.

GoatRoper

Steve, I really hope your right and Piniella does an outstanding job, but what a lot of us are worried about are the similarities he has with Baker that obviously didn't work with the Cubs. I don't know, I guess Iv'e been a Cubs fan for too long. I became a cubs fan when I was eight years old in 1969, It's hard to be positive when things don't get better after so long.

Clute

Old doesn't equate with clueless anymore than young equates expertise.

The horses are going to be what matters and if Pinella will force the hand of the Cubs to spend more money I'm for it.

We need reliable starters. 2006 wouldn't have been the trainwreck it was had it not been for the injuries.

I'm not saying we don't overpay for mediocre free agents and don't teach sound fundamental play. One the fault of the front office and the second the fault of the manager.

The GM is here for now so a manager that commands his players to play his way or the highway is a start.

Ben

Clute is right. Whoever the new manager is, he's not as important as the players on the field. The Cubs need two reliable starting pitchers and a power bat, and if Hendry fails to grab all three (as well as upgrades elsewhere), it won't matter who's in the dugout.

greg

i agree with clute, i dont think it matters who the manager is, that is why I dont care if Lou or Joe is the manager. I dont think it will matter. And lou is Dusty's clone. You know, what do you want me to say kurt. Becuase i dont LOVE Lou, but i dont think he will do a bad job. But i do know that whoever gets the job, it will be tough because he will have to answer to us as fans. We fans can be very impatient as i think a lot of people that post on this site are. You know, i think if the cubs lose their first game of the year a lot of people will throw in the towel. So i think as fans, we need to relax a little bit because they want to win just as badly as we do.

Craig

"A big name manager might just get us a big name free agent."

Maybe I missed something blatantly obvious, but wasn't Baker a 'big name manager'?

He certainly didn't get us any big name free agents, as was promised.

Justin

Hiring Lou would mean Shitsville for the Cubs? As opposed to what? The last couple of years?

I'm not optimistic that Piniella will make the Cubs better, but he'd be hard pressed to make them any worse.

Mike D.

It's all about Hendry and him going for the bomb in this postseason's FA agent market. Jimbo can't afford to be Mr. Cost Benefit Analysis anymore. Not if he doesn't want to be brushing up his rez this time next year.

Not the wisest way to run a club (roto-style)but, under the circumstances, it's realistically their our best shot for now.

Tribune. Sell. Soon. Please.

Santos Sorrow

"Old doesn't equate with clueless anymore than young equates expertise.

The horses are going to be what matters and if Pinella will force the hand of the Cubs to spend more money I'm for it. "

So what exactly is the point of paying a manager anymore than, say 1 million, if the players are the determinate of success? There ISN'T!!!

It makes ZERO sense to hire a "name" manager to a multi-million dollar contract, a given manager vis-a-vis a replacement manager simply doesnt provide the incremental value to justify the dollars. It is much better to take the net 2-3 million and invest it in 10-15 scouts!!! The Cubs STILL have the smallest full-time staff of ANY Major League franchise!

Santos Sorrow

"Old doesn't equate with clueless anymore than young equates expertise.

The horses are going to be what matters and if Pinella will force the hand of the Cubs to spend more money I'm for it. "

So what exactly is the point of paying a manager anymore than, say 1 million, if the players are the determinate of success? There ISN'T!!!

It makes ZERO sense to hire a "name" manager to a multi-million dollar contract, a given manager vis-a-vis a replacement manager simply doesnt provide the incremental value to justify the dollars. It is much better to take the net 2-3 million and invest it in 10-15 scouts!!! The Cubs STILL have the smallest full-time staff of ANY Major League franchise!

Byron

The Cubs STILL have the smallest full-time staff of ANY Major League franchise!

Mr. Santo's Sorrow, is this a fact or did you make this up? Not that I don't trust you, but I'd like to know your source. In my jaded state, I fully believe this is possible... but I'd like to know where your info came from.

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