Goatriders of the Apocalypse

Would the Cubs trade Derrek?

It doesn't look like we'll have to worry about this, but has anyone considered what would happen if the Cubs just fell from the playoff race like a stone from the sky? What would happen to this team? Who would be made available via trade?

Basically, what I'm getting to is: would the Cubs deal Derrek Lee?

I think they'd have to. I don't believe for a second that he'll ever match a season like this one. His value will never be higher, and he only has a year left on his contract, which means that if the Cubs kept him, they'd have to give him a raise anyway. Meanwhile, the Cubs have Brian Dopirak, he of the massive, gargantuan power, working his way up through the minors. Maybe he'll be ready in two years anyway.

I'm just saying, if the Cubs fall out of it, some players will have to go. I'm certain that Todd Walker would be out, as might Jeromy Burnitz, Ryan Dempster, and probably Kerry Wood. But really, if the Cubs were to reload for next year and beyond, no one could garner as many young, talented players right now as Derrek Lee.

What are your thoughts on this hypothetical?

Chuck

Have you seen Dopriak's numbers? 2 years? Only if you are counting days as if this were Genesis.

Joe

Dealing Lee would be the stupidest thing ever. He's a cornerstone. You don't deal those. You deal spare parts.

kurt

I'm sure the same argument was made regarding Sammy Sosa after his 98-99 seasons. One player does not win a World Series, and I often wonder what the Cubs would look like today had they managed to trade Sammy for a couple of talented prospects.

Thunderclap Newman

The difference between the Cubs of 98-99 and the Cubs of now is that the current team actually has some other talent. Shereas the 98-99 version had only Sam, an aging Mark Grace, and injured Kerry Wood. That would have been a great time to re-tool and trade Sam. This team is very close to contending regularly and you can't get rid of a likely "cornerstone" such as Lee. If they fall out of the race they should trade any players that aren't a part of the long term future that have value, like Burnitz, Walker, etc.

Thunderclap Newman

The difference between the Cubs of 98-99 and the Cubs of now is that the current team actually has some other talent. Shereas the 98-99 version had only Sam, an aging Mark Grace, and injured Kerry Wood. That would have been a great time to re-tool and trade Sam. This team is very close to contending regularly and you can't get rid of a likely "cornerstone" such as Lee. If they fall out of the race they should trade any players that aren't a part of the long term future that have value, like Burnitz, Walker, etc.

JamesD

I think you would have to trade Derrek. Can you imagine the haul we could get from Boston, Anahiem, Atlanta, or the Mets. If Derrek played CF, SS, or 2b I might not be in this position but first base is so easy to fill. I don't think Dopriak will be a usefull major league player. Brandon Sing on the other hand could well be a stud next year.

Dusty Baylor

What "haul" would we get from Boston? Kevin Millar and Bill Muellar?
Atlanta?? Who the heck would they give us? Their team surgeon?
That is just silly.

Jason R.

Derrek Lee to Atlanta for Bobby Cox and Leo Mazzone.

Seriously, though, let's keep Lee. It is pretty rare that the super star is not an ass and so I don't want to lose that.

James

For what? prospects?

We've got plenty. Just check out our West Tennesee team.

Unless someone offers cheap, proven players who can help this team this year and for a few years to come, Derrek Lee remains a Cub, and they should do everything they can to resign him.

If they want to make a trade to divest themselves of first basemen, trade Dopirak or Sing. Get prospects for them. It's the same thing the Yankees did with Mike Lowell (although it didn't work out that well).

This team isn't in the same position as Cincinnati or Minnesota or Oakland... if the Cubs do fall out of the race, they can still afford to pay their players. Spare parts like Burnitz, Walker, Dempster, Rusch, etc. can go, but only if they bring back prospects with resale value in return... that means no more Mike Fontenots or Dave Crouthers.

Our foundation (Prior, Zambrano, Lee, Ramirez) has to stay in place.

teetimetommyivy

Can't think of a deal that would make any sense. The guy is what 29? Should be the first of many good years. Given the way he runs and his athleticism, why isn't he our left fielder next year? Can't tell much about his arm, but I'd like
to see him tried in left next Spring Training. I realize he's a gifted first baseman, but Helton's not bad either. Walker,Garciaparra, Helton, Lee, Ramirez, Burnitz, Barrett and 0-4 w/4Ks CP. Not a bad line-up.

john

read the uncouth sloth comments for 6-22,6-23, if you have any faith at all.

Jason R.

I have a new answer to this question:

NO

John P

We aren't the Oakland A's or even the old Cubs. We can keep good players and pay them high salaries. We do not need to dump them whenever they might get expensive and hope to start over with some cheap rookies. It is about getting the most talent we can, not the cheapest.

JamesD

I get more excited about Derrek's atbats than any player since Sosa in '98 but he has to be traded if the Cubs fall out of it. He is 29 years old, plays a lower skill defensive position, and is currently hitting about 100 points above his career numbers. His value will never get higher.

So yes you trade him for prospects, good ones that are about to make it to the major leagues. There is no such thing as too many prospects.

Tom Wolfenden

You trade solid veterans to stock your farm system and although the Cubs system is not as loaded as it was two years ago its still far from being dry. I have been a Cub fan since 1948 the two best 1B providing quality from a offense and defense standpoint were Mark Grace and Derick Lee. We don't need to retool the whole team. And players of their abilities don't come around everyday. We need to build around Lee, Ramierz and Barrett. I just hope they give Cedeno half the chance that Patterson received.

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